{"id":2615,"date":"2013-03-17T23:54:11","date_gmt":"2013-03-17T12:54:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com\/?p=2615"},"modified":"2019-04-13T23:24:18","modified_gmt":"2019-04-13T13:24:18","slug":"albericie-debates-chriskkenny-on-media-self-regulation-reform-and-the-winner-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.nofibs.com.au\/albericie-debates-chriskkenny-on-media-self-regulation-reform-and-the-winner-is\/","title":{"rendered":"@albericie debates @chriskkenny on media self regulation reform: And the winner is?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_2618\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2618\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2618\" alt=\"Artist Martin Davies.\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/nofibs.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/davies_murdoch.jpg?resize=240%2C375\" width=\"240\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/archive.nofibs.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/davies_murdoch.jpg?w=240&amp;ssl=1 240w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/archive.nofibs.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/davies_murdoch.jpg?resize=192%2C300&amp;ssl=1 192w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2618\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Artist Martin Davies.<\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>Wish the left would do something right for a change. Left gives up values in favour of politicking <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/F1Jm3MJGaf\" title=\"http:\/\/blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au\/chriskenny\/index.php\/theaustralian\/comments\/left_gives_up_values_in_favour_of_politicking\/#.UUES9q6v670.twitter\">blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au\/chriskenny\/ind\u2026<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/311990098428317696\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> It&#8217;s not a left\/right issue but one of fairness why should TV &amp; radio news be regulated but print news not? who&#8217;s politicking?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/311994275711819776\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> Seriously? You too are supporting media regulation? I think Australia has fallen through the looking glass.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/311998309478846467\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> Broadcasters already regulated through ACMA what is wrong with PIMA ensuring press does what its own self-reg says it will?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/311999005213196288\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> because that is gov regulation and a blanket on press freedom &#8211; isn&#8217;t that obvious?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312001268480634880\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> how exactly is it a blanket on press freedom to have self regulation strengthened but still self regulation? No legal sanctions<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312002388846342145\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/vjboodie\">vjboodie<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> like Productivity Commission? ACCC? FIRB? APRA? ASIC?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312002605553446912\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> sanctions of withdrawal of protections &#8211; all overseen by a gov appointed advocate. Astonished any journalist could support<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312003089139904512\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> only get sanctioned if you don&#8217;t abide by rulings of your own self regulator .. where is the controversy?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312003847797219329\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/markatextor\">markatextor<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> have read a lot including the entire Finklestein Report. More people should<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312010067035709441\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/markatextor\">markatextor<\/a> You are supporting more gov regulation not less. What happened to you liberal instincts?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312010819535765505\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/markatextor\">markatextor<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> the report showed how ineffective the Press Council was .. until the threat of regulation suddenly gave it bite<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312013092873723904\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/colonelsandersp\">colonelsandersp<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/markatextor\">markatextor<\/a> Show me how this is gov regulation .. that&#8217;s what Finklestein wanted and Conroy said No<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312013675487694848\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>. @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> Public interest media advocate most powerful person in Oz media: impose his\/her\/gov standards on media. Anathema to freedom<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312014331535568898\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> what standards are you concerned about having to abide by?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312015231717109761\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> Government standards. Any government&#8217;s standards. It&#8217;s that simple. When did you switch from libertarianism to authoritarianism?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312016417983717376\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> Read Finkelstein to see overwhelmingly public trusts ABC more than any other media org &amp; we most heavily regulated of all<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312025673545961472\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> they are standards set by the self-regulating body itself. Hardly \u2018government standards\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Elliot Giakalis (@ElliotG78) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ElliotG78\/status\/312018527332745216\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elliotg78\">elliotg78<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> You are an ALP member, advocating your team, and you don&#8217;t even make an argument. So you lose out on all counts<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312021624494891010\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elliotg78\">elliotg78<\/a> I am not a member of the ALP so you prove you have scant regard for truth or accuracy <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23getyourfactsright\">#getyourfactsright<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312022225433804801\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elliotg78\">elliotg78<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> says ALP lawyer. Standards subject to gov regulator approval\/interpretation. Remember when Left argued for freedom?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312019069131948032\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elliotg78\">elliotg78<\/a> With freedom comes responsibility<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312019309306200064\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> Is the electronic media more responsible than print? If we all deferred to ALP\/Greens like <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23ABC\">#ABC<\/a> would that be acceptable to you?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312022076099805184\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> deferred to ALP\/Greens? what are you on about? the only thing not acceptable is your flimsy arguments against regulation<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312022463930310657\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>. @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> A journalist publicly advocating a government&#8217;s attempt to regulate media standards. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23thingsIthoughtIwouldneversee\">#thingsIthoughtIwouldneversee<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312022897134825473\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\">chriskkenny<\/a> I am not advocating any such thing. I am asking you to justify your response to what is patently far from draconian<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312024345406996480\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>. @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> Oh now, you are backing away? But still suggesting we should accept regulation because it could have been more draconian.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312024738904027137\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>. @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\">albericie<\/a> And I explained very succinctly. Media content must not be forced to comply to government standards.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Chris Kenny (@chriskkenny) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chriskkenny\/status\/312024990914605057\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"500\">\n<p>@<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/steveathan\">steveathan<\/a> don&#8217;t presume to know anything about my politics. am arguing for a common sense approach to the media reform debate nothing more<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Emma Alberici (@albericie) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/albericie\/status\/312025114222936064\">March 14, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Read more:\u00a0<a title=\"My conversation with a Murdoch press\u00a0release\" href=\"http:\/\/australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com\/2013\/03\/16\/my-conversation-with-a-murdoch-press-release\/\">My conversation with a Murdoch press\u00a0release<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wish the left would do something right for a change. 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